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Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:55 am
by ChAoS
impala59 wrote:Hopefully, when is the next date?

I just had a quick look at our calendar and it says that the next Open is on Sunday, April 30th.

Now, *usually*, the Crew Shoot is two weeks before. However, *this* time, it's on 2nd April. I don't know why. I mention the Crew Shoot because we usually have one or two places available for non-crew competitors who can't make the main shoot.

As I learned last year I need to get in early

Yeah, it's a bit popular. The site looks pretty much like this when the bluebells are out:

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Regards,

Mark.

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:25 am
by impala59
Hi Mark
Entry fee duly paid for 30th
Look forward to seeing you there
Roland

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:52 am
by ChAoS
impala59 wrote:Entry fee duly paid for 30th
Look forward to seeing you there

Oh, well done!

Unless sommat crops up, I should be crewing. (If it's nice, my cap'll say "ChAoS"; if it not, I'll probably have a wide-brimmed hat on of some sort.)

Regards,

Mark.

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:57 am
by impala59
A Brief update on my 'Binocular' sight experiment for the PM5.
It seems to work, up until the small (bore-line) sight gave up (battery shift, need to address that) I was finding that I could acquire and engage targets much easier and it felt very natural. I think that higher quality sights would be a vast improvement but nonetheless I am happy to move along this road. As an after-thought I had fitted, in case of a total failure, some flip up iron sights and these work fairly well too, particularly for slug.
Downside? well the gun definitely looks a bit strange. Some people like it, purists think it an abomination! Also, with the master eye sight 2" left of the bore, in some courses of fire it could contact or be obscured by the side of the barricade, if shooting left handed, but, as this is competition and not the real world I can live with that, if the briefing states 'left shoulder' I will be able to remove that sight for that course of fire

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:10 am
by ChAoS
You didn't have anything to do with the design of *this*, did you? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U682yOpNafg

Regards,

Mark.

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:53 pm
by impala59
Wow! how cool is that? :D
Unfortunately, despite being a bit past my 'best before' date and a bit long in the tooth, even I wasn't around in 1915!
That rifle illustrates perfectly what I find so fascinating with firearms, namely the way they work (that one clearly external) and has reawakened a pet idea of mine which I drew up plans for (and can't now find unfortunately :()
It was to make a self loading Model 37. I never found a 37 that I would risk, they were all too precious! Now if only I could find a real wrecker.......maybe I would have a go
What slightly put me off was Remington's failed 105 CTI bottom eject autoloader, which, while a beautiful piece of engineering was not reliable and was phased out after a short production run. I thought if they can't do it, how could I? But there again, they did take the Mag 10 and ruin that!
Anyway thanks for that link, I am sure many will find it interesting.

As an aside, perhaps you would email me with directions to Popham, looking at google earth, it seems that the entrance is from a layby on the Eastbound A303?

Regards
Roland

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:09 pm
by ChAoS
impala59 wrote:That rifle illustrates perfectly what I find so fascinating with firearms, namely the way they work

Indeed.

Anyway thanks for that link, I am sure many will find it interesting.

The whole "Forgotten Weapons" channel is worth viewing.

As an aside, perhaps you would email me with directions to Popham, looking at google earth, it seems that the entrance is from a layby on the Eastbound A303?


This, I have done although my "Sent" folder seems to indicate that I had a little, um, "finger trouble" and sent two emails - one, "sans attatchment"... :)

Regards,

Mark.

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:09 am
by impala59
Now re-worked with a matching pair of parallax free dot sights plus magpul type flip-up in case of total tech failure...............

rather like how many people can you get in a Mini...how many sights can you get on your rail?!!

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Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:32 pm
by impala59
Thought I would bring the forum up to date on some recent acquisitions in the non Ithaca area, usually bought very cheaply, privately or at auction. All are in full working order now after component level strip-down and some deep cleaning and subsequent function testing. I have been fairly fortunate in that no major parts have been required, just a few pins and springs etc.
Firstly, my first Winchester, a model 1200, 28" barrel, winchoke system, a very nice handling gun
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A fairly early Remington 870 Wingmaster, 30" full choke. Not marine finish as it appears, I have stripped off most of the finish in preparation for a re-blue. This gun does need a trigger guard as some bright spark decided to drill lightening holes front to back for some unknown reason. Doesn't affect the gun but looks a bit stupid.
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Thirdly an SKB 200E, ostensibly the same as the Ithaca 200E as made in the same place. With 26" imp and half choke barrels its a fast handler on pigeons and clays, I'm getting to grips with its clean up as it was in a fairly sorry state when I bought it. I will probably have the barrels re-blacked professionally as I think the gun deserves it. Nice, crack free wood will come to life with a total strip and Danish oil finish
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So, some projects for over the winter, to add to all the others!

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:49 pm
by SHOOTER13
Very nice...keep us in the loop on the projects !!

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:42 pm
by krag96
Nice guns and I'm happy you can have them.

Now I gotta ask, are you a fan of old Chevys?

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:55 am
by impala59
Definitely! I had a 59 impala convertible which was unfortunately a basket case. They are so expensive now that I will need to win the lottery to get another! Always liked US '50's styling and Chevys in particular.
Incidentally, I am currently in the Greek Ionian islands on vacation and just across the water from where I am is the island of Ithaca, home to Odysseus and of course namesake of our favourite guns!

edit......
Just got back from Greek Islands, this souvenir seems appropriate for this site!

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Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:43 pm
by impala59
New Acquisition!
This is a Hug San Huglu TS 870
You would be forgiven for mis-identifying this gun, and I bought it mainly out of curiosity. It looks like, shoots like and takes down exactly like a 37. Its obviously a clone (Turkish) but I have never come across this one before. It makes the Norinco YL12 M37 clone look very poor in comparison and aside from some rough internal machining (which doesn't affect anything) its a nice shooter with some features that we in the UK don't see on our 37's yet such as 3" magnum, steel proof and screw in chokes. (Mobile I believe) I don't believe that it devalues my collection as it is well put together, shoots well and is not a bad looking gun. An oil treatment will hopefully bring out the figuring on the woodwork. It would seem to be out of production as the current Huglu pumps are all side eject. I wonder if it was such a close copy that Ithaca took some action? Any information would be welcome.

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TS 870 (unfortunate choice of number!
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First Takedown
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Internals
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Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:30 pm
by 1977cutcher
Interesting. Looks to have a longer magazine tube and post war styled checkering. I will have to do some research on this.

Re: Shotguns (non-Ithaca)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:37 pm
by impala59
It’s an 8 shot model but UK restricted to 3 shot with the tube crimped . The carrier/lifter/ejector is interesting as the steel is much more springy, when in the fully down position the tips are about 1/4” apart, ejection is extremely positive. The carrier pivot screws have only one cut out for the lock screw which is about a sixth of a turn back from tight. The threads are metric all round.